This is an interview article with Marvin. Marvin’s responses are highlighted in light green.
In this final interview, Marvin shares two cleaning methods:
Communicating with Unihipili in advance about the day’s activities.
Saying “Thank you, I love you” to money—even to a single coin.
<What Does It Mean to Love Yourself?>
── Thank you, Marvin. My next question is about Unihipili (the subconscious, inner child).
In Ho’oponopono, we learn that our relationship with Unihipili is very important. We need to learn how to love ourselves and care for our Unihipili.
However, many students say, “I don’t know how to care for my Unihipili,” or “I can’t seem to connect with it.”
As a man, how do you define what it truly means to love yourself?
In your daily life, how do you care for and nurture your Unihipili?
When we clean, we are loving ourselves.
When our consciousness—the inner mother—chooses to clean, our Unihipili benefits.
As we clean, Unihipili gathers memories that can be released in that moment—memories accumulated since the beginning of creation.
Our consciousness doesn’t know exactly what these memories are, but this helps us understand that we never go somewhere without reason. There is always something behind it.
So, when we choose to clean, that is an expression of self-love.
And when we clean, we always clean ourselves first before cleaning others, situations, or objects.
We carry energies from our family, relatives, and ancestors. When we clean, they also benefit. In the same way, the entire universe benefits from our cleaning.
I remember a student who attended a class once—she was a programmer.
She told me that she found it difficult to keep saying “I love you” as a cleaning tool.
At that time, I was not yet a teacher but was organizing the course. She came to me with her concern.
Later, she shared that she found a way to integrate “Thank you, I love you” into her programming code, and it helped her a lot.
When we say “I love you,” it doesn’t mean we have to say it with strong emotions.
Rather, we are using the words as a cleaning tool.
Some people may feel that “I love you” is only for romantic relationships, but in Ho’oponopono, that is not the case.
If saying “I love you” feels inappropriate in certain situations, we can use “Thank you” as a cleaning tool instead.
We can use various cleaning tools, and all of them lead to the same process—cleaning.
<How to Care for Unihipili?>
── Thank you, Marvin. Another Ho’oponopono teacher, Nello, also a man, once shared that his way of caring for Unihipili is by practicing HA breathing and using the Unihipili care and protection methods taught in official courses.
Personally, I have been practicing for many years.
Before that, I wasn’t someone who truly loved myself—I was a perfectionist and often blamed myself.
Ms. Betty once told me that I seemed to always blame my Unihipili. She taught me to start loving it.
So, I began practicing a daily morning routine.
Every morning, when I wake up and go to the bathroom, I stand in front of the mirror and have a conversation with my Unihipili.
I look at myself in the mirror and say, “Good morning. Thank you. I love you.”
At first, every time I did this, I would cry. Tears would flow uncontrollably.
I think it was because, for so many years, I had never truly paid attention to my Unihipili—I had always ignored it.
But after a long period of practice, my relationship with my Unihipili has greatly improved.
So, Marvin, how do you care for your Unihipili?
My way of caring for my inner child is by doing a lot of cleaning every day.
I start cleaning the moment I wake up.
Throughout the day, I clean many times.
At night, as I lie in bed, I continue to clean until I fall asleep.
Even in my sleep, I am still cleaning.
So, for me, cleaning is an ongoing process.
During the day, I talk to Unihipili about where we are going and what we will be doing.
For example, if my wife says we are going to a restaurant, I tell my Unihipili, “We are going to this place.”
Or, I tell Unihipili, “Today, we have an interview.” But our real purpose is to clean.
For me, taking care of Unihipili means cleaning, because when we clean, we release the replaying memories stored in our subconscious.
Sometimes, I also say to my Unihipili, “Let me hold your hand.” Or, I simply say, “I love you.”
Cleaning itself is simple, but practicing cleaning can be challenging because we easily project problems onto the outside world.
Our consciousness does this, and it creates obstacles for us.
That’s why continuous cleaning is necessary—so that Unihipili can feel the presence of love.
I remember attending a class with Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len, and there were many students.
During the class, a student asked a question, but I didn’t hear it clearly.
In reality, Unihipili is always listening.
But when memories block us, it can make us feel as though we don’t hear or see what is happening.
When we are in the process of cleaning, we can hear, see, and feel what is truly happening.
Our Unihipili also wants us to clean.
That’s why I say, focusing on cleaning is important.
When we do a HA breath or say “I love you,” it doesn’t have to be spoken aloud—it can be said in our mind.
Or we can use other cleaning tools, such as saying “Thank you.”
People always like to hear words of gratitude, even if they don’t realize that we are using “Thank you” as a way to clean and release memories.
We are always connected to one another. Through cleaning, we cut the memory ties between us and others, and we all become free.
We always clean ourselves first—just like the safety instructions on an airplane.
We put on our own oxygen mask first before helping others with theirs.
<How to Clean the Fear and Scarcity of Money?>
── Thank you, Marvin. I learned a great method today—to tell Unihipili about our plans for the day and invite it to clean with us.
I find this very helpful.
For my final question, how can we clean the fear and feeling of lack regarding money?
Many students take Ho’oponopono business courses to improve their relationship with money.
Some mention their fear of money or feeling a sense of lack—not necessarily because they don’t have money, but because they hesitate to spend it, feeling scarcity.
How can we clean the fear and scarcity mindset around money?
Again, the key is to clean.
The cleaning tool manual from the courses includes many tools that can be used.
I remember during the pandemic, many stores in the U.S. shut down.
My wife and I also felt fear—we worried about how to pay our mortgage.
This is a fear that many people experience—the fear of losing something.
But when we are trapped in fear, anxiety, and stress, we are disconnected from Divine Wisdom.
I told my wife, “Let’s clean.”
While cleaning, one day, I suddenly received a call offering me a job.
Originally, I was told my health insurance would take 90 days to be activated.
But suddenly, they processed everything immediately—it took effect right away.
My wife also started teaching children online, providing her with income.
None of this was planned. It all happened through cleaning.
Divinity knows what we need and provides it.
Our job is to clean.
Focus on cleaning, and leave the rest to Divine Wisdom. The gifts from Divinity will come.
Whenever I touch money, I say, “Thank you. I love you.”
Even when I see a coin on the street, I pick it up and say, “Thank you, I love you.”
Because when we dismiss small amounts of money, money feels ignored.
Money communicates with other money—it carries energy.
So, it’s important to say, “Thank you. I love you.”
── That’s such a simple and practical method. Thank you!
We look forward to welcoming you to Asia someday!
